(Pompeo said that)..."the U.S. will organize the free world, while alienating and undermining the free world; he extols democracy, while aiding and abetting its destruction at home; and he praises the Chinese people, while generalizing about the ill intent of Chinese students who want to come to America.Pompeo is also ultra-loyal to a president who cares not one whit for democracy, dissidents, freedom, or transparency overseas. Trump’s long track record on this is well documented, and it has defined his personal approach to China."
As we discussed here a while back, I'm all in favor of treating the PRC with cautious skepticism. But the problem here is that, having made it clear that if you're a Trumpkin, you're "America First" all the way, this administration has little diplomatic throw-weight to actually mobilize any sort of large-scale pushback against Chinese geopolitical ambitions. And then there's the whole "you are, too!" problem:
"The Chinese Communist Party wants a tributary international system where smaller countries are deferential to larger powers, instead of a rules-based international order where small countries enjoy equal rights. The CCP also sees no place for universal rights or global liberal norms, and wants to ignore the principles of open markets to pursue a predatory mercantilist economic policy.
So does Trump."
All this will undoubtedly rachet up tensions in the East Asian littoral. What that means in practice? I'm not sure; right now the U.S. is too busy being devoured by the Plague to make anything as distant as the South China Sea fairly low on the priority list...
Meanwhile, half a world away the same U.S. administration has directed the USDOD to move about 12,000 military bodies out of the Federal Republic of Germany.
This does not, in case you're keeping score, count as a "Donald the Dove" peace proposal. These people aren't going to become VISTA volunteers. Many are going to other parts of Europe, including Poland(?), Belgium, and Italy. But some of this may tie into the aggressive rhetoric against the PRC:
“Several thousand troops currently assigned to Germany may be reassigned to other countries in Europe,” Trump’s national security adviser, Robert O’Brien, said in an op-ed published Tuesday in The Wall Street Journal. “Thousands may expect to redeploy to the Indo-Pacific, where the U.S. maintains a military presence in Guam, Hawaii, Alaska and Japan, as well as deployments in locations like Australia.”
It's difficult not to be cynical about seeing this as a Trumpian revenge against the German government and his bete noir, PM Merkel, for being insufficiently fawning.
Anyway...interesting times.
At this point, the entire world is gonna slow roll the current American administration. No point in spending capital trying to forge a deal with somebody who likely will be gone in a few months time.
ReplyDeleteI have no clue as to Donny's dislike of Germany and Angela. Your point of her being not servile enough to him sounds as good as any other reason. However, I suspect he has also had some whispering by a friend of his in Moscow who is trying to break up the 75-year relationship.
ReplyDeleteAs for China policy, there are at least four reasons:
#1 it is personal revenge on Xi who never gave him the trade deal he wanted. And when it blew up Trump did some groveling to Xi, begging him to buy more midwestern soy and wheat to placate farmers and help him win election. Xi ignored him. Plus it is to negate Bolton's claim that it happened and to make us forget his groveling.
#2 by blaming China for the pandemic and portraying himself as being tough about it, he takes the heat off of his own incompetence in dealing with Covid.
#3 it is an election ploy to make Biden look soft on China. Any side effects of smearing Biden's son Hunter is gravy.
and #4 perhaps the core reason: It hides his own indebtedness to a Chinese Bank for several tens of millions of dollars.
https://theweek.com/speedreads/920635/trump-begged-chinese-president-xi-jinping-help-win-reelection-bolton-says
https://twitter.com/JChengWSJ/status/1288395559925997569
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/24/trump-biden-china-debt-205475
The consulate business is odd, since my understanding is that, unlike the Russian FSB, the Zhōnghuá Rénmín Gònghéguó Guójiā Ānquán Bù seldom runs their operatives under official covers; the bulk of PRC espionage is NOCs - students and businesspeople - or remotely through hacking and spyware. Suggests that, unlike the Cylons, the Trumpkins don't have a plsn - they're just sort of flailing. When you're a nuclear power, "flailing" isn't a good thing.
DeleteBut overall I think this is part and parcel of a larger GOP search for a new Cold War. There's no point in throwing all that cash at DoD is all you're going to use it for is to chase raggedy-ass muj around southcentral Asia and the Middle East. But Yellow Reds? Now THERE's a foe worth manning-up for!
Mind you, given the PRCs aggressive foreign policy it's kind of inevitable that they will rub up against other Great Powers. Given that there IS only one other Great Power at the moment, that'd be the U.S.
Fred Kaplan at Slate has a piece up discussing this (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/07/troops-germany-trump-merkel.html) and he has three conclusions:
1. It IS Trumpian pique about Merkal in particular. His supposed rationale - that the BRD "isn't paying" also holds for Belgium and Italy, the places some of these bodies are supposed to move to,
2. That it's not going to save money as it's being claimed. About half the bodies are just being moved in the EU, with the expense of building new facilities and other appurtenances for them wherever they go. The permanent duty station of the 2ACR - currently at Rose Barracks in Vilseck - is being relocated to CONUS...but the idea is that the 2nd Dragoons will rotate back to the EU region regularly. They're not old-school heavy cav, but it's not easy or cheap to ship Strykers and all that ash-and-trash, either.
3. And it's not going to actually do any geopolitical "good". Even if it won't help Russia - and I don't see it being much of a material assist - it is one more reason for Europeans not to trust U.S. policymaking as well as just another incoherent piece of Trumpkin "foreign policy"; if they were REALLY #endingendlesswars it'd be one thing. But the military missions in Africa, the Middle East, and south Asia are still ongoing. This just shuffles the various head sheds like AFRICOM around without any real material difference.
So...in other words..."forget it, Jake. It's Trump."
You might need to check your "tub thumping" link.
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What benefit does having *any* US troops stationed in Germany have? The Russian's ain't invading anytime soon (and even if they were, the border is well to the East). And moving them to Belgium is definitely the wrong way if you are worried about them Ruskies.
ReplyDeleteThe old joke was that NATO was to "keep the Americans in, the Russians out, and the Germans down". But, yes, the idea of U.S. bodies in German bases was as a sort of promise - much as the 2nd ID in the ROK is a promise - that if the Evil Reds came over the border the U.S. "would risk New York getting nuked to save Bonn". That, I think, is the impetus to move them to Poland - to bring them closer to the Red Hordes.
DeleteTo me the interest in this is purely as an insight into the process - or lack of same - going on in the Trump White House. Like it or not, the old school GOP has an actual geopolitical plan. This just rubs in the fact that because the king is mad the courtiers have to do mad things just because.
Vilseck is near the Czech border. And those troops are not there to stop a Russkie invasion. They are there as a symbol of NATO unity, which the Moron deplores. Some are moving to Poland, some to Italy, some to Belgium. And as the Moron's covid-infected Nat'l Scty Advisor O'Brien says referenced above by FDChief: "Thousands may expect to redeploy to the Indo-Pacific,..."
ReplyDeleteWell...until '91 the border Cav was certainly there - at least notionally - to fight a Soviet invasion. A friend of mine was posted to the 11th ACR, then stationed at Downs Barracks in Fulda, and their black joke was betting on how many minutes they'd survive when the Group of Soviet Forces in Germany crossed the intra-German border...
DeleteBut that kind of makes the point; nobody thought that the Cav would actually STOP a Soviet invasion. They were there as a marker for U.S. support of the NATO alliance.
My problem with the Trumpkins isn't their isolationism (they're not, really; Trump is just always on the mooch, and he can't mooch off pointless foreign adventures - which require SPENDING money - as opposed to fat defense contracts that MAKE money for the contractors...) but their stupidity. Allies, if used correctly, are a dirt-cheap and effective force multiplier. The U.S. has gotten WAY more out of its membership in NATO than it ever put into it.
But, again, that's where this stuff exposes Trump as just a petty crook, and I mean that literally; he's got the mind of a guy knocking over a gas station. That may explain his multiple business failures. He can't even think like a white-collar crook, putting off the small score to make the big casino. He just grabs a stack of ones out of the till and runs for it.
Rose Barracks in Vilseck in just a stone's throw from Merrell Barracks in Nuremberg, which is also near the Czech border. That is where Secretary of State Mike Pom-Pom was stationed during the 1st Gulf War. Pom-Pom claimed recently during congressional testimony: "I fought on the border of East Germany when I was a young soldier".
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Stolen valor maybe? But there was zero fighting on the border of East Germany in the late 80s & early 90s. So no, just self aggrandizement. He's taking a page from the Moron's boasting. Next thing he'll be saying what a great tank platoon commander he was. When in fact they banished him to the squadron maintenance shack as he got too rotund to fit thru an M-1 commander's hatch. Must have been all that Bavarian Strudel.
Another perfect example of the Trumpkin "Ready! Fire! Aim!" foreign policy: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/07/17/trump-era-racist-rhetoric-makes-chinese-students-us-less-supportive-democracy/
ReplyDelete"Senior figures in the Trump administration like deputy national security adviser Matt Pottinger have encouraged the Chinese people to bring democracy to China. But anti-Chinese rhetoric spouted by the president and repeated by his supporters makes this goal far less likely."
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It takes years prepare and execute do a major redeployment of U.S. troops to bases of allies. Nobody built bases to American tastes just in case. There's not going to be anything more than uninteresting temporary movements till end of January, so why care?
ReplyDeletePersonally, I would love to see foreign troops leave Germany. The only capability that's going to be missed is a British pontoon battalion, and the British Army was wise enough to schedule them for redeployment to the UK last of all redeploying forces IIRC.
Ah, yes, the British military practically left Germany and hardly anyone noticed. The practical relevance of the Americans is no greater. Some of them are literally concerned with Arab or Black African countries, not with European security.
The only U.S. forces in Germany that are kinda meant for Europe's defence are crap to be honest.
A fighter wing using obsolete F-16s (that's de facto a light bomber wing for permissible airspace, not of much use until reinforcements arrive).
A light brigade that lacks SP arty, MBTs and IFVs.
Some additional towed arty units.
Some rotary aviation that would not survive Russian air defences.
A MLRS-equipped brigade. I'm not sure whether the U.S. has any significant DPICM munitions for it in Europe at all.
This is less capability that one well-rounded mechanised brigade could have despite a presence of 29,000 troops in Germany.
Little correction; 29k army, it's apparently 38.6k American troops in Germany including the USAF but not counting embassy marines.
DeleteIn all honesty, I think it's time for USAREUR to strike its tents, too. Either the US and Germany (and the EU in general) are allies...or they're not, and having a bunch of fairly random GIs - and I entirely agree that since '01 the remnants of the old V and VII Corps aren't anything like a coherent military organization - swanning around the BRD isn't really going to change that.
DeleteBut, that said, if that's going to happen, it should happen as part of an actual geopolitical plan, not because some bloated old tangerine-colored real estate grifter has a case of the ass.
"Ah, yes, the British military practically left Germany and hardly anyone noticed. The practical relevance of the Americans is no greater. "
DeleteThat is obviouisly the opinion of a guy living in southern Germany. :-)
The UK units were in regions with much more economic issues than the US forces, believe me, the locals felt the reduction of British forces and struggled for many years.
Many US units are in regions where space is expensive and there are economic alternatives, even gains, that was not true in Lower Saxony.
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Sven - Do the Brits still maintain a pre-positioned set of armor by that training area up near Teuotberg? Something similar to the old POMCUS program?
ReplyDeleteI have heard that although POMCUS is no longer a valid program that not all of it went to Desert Storm. Some was left in Germany, and it was renamed as the APS or Army Prepositioned Stock. I don't have a clue as to how much is there other than a five-year-old reference @WarOnTheRocks that claims a few brigades worth of equipment are still in Europe. There is one in Dülmen, a temporary one in Mannheim, and a set for rotational units at Miesau Army Depot.
I very much doubt it considering their anaemic Challenger 2 inventory.
DeleteThe prepositioned stocks may correlate with the forces that used to be assigned to USAEUR, but were based in the U.S.. IIRC that was two brigades.
I very much doubt that prepositioned equipment is in good condition or of the latest version. Night vision devices, radios, AFV upgrades and EW equipment may be well below nominal strength. A road march with tanks to Lithuania could take days if there's any suitable Oder and Vistula bridging at all. Brigades without M109 or M1A2 will be of little relevance. The U.S. Army is not known for good performance in battle without overwhelming artillery and air support, and they wouldn't have either for weeks.
There's furthermore the show of seriousness and competence that was the sending of a company of desert-camouflaged Abrams into the composite battalions in the Baltics and Poland. Those prepositioned stocks may very wells till consist of desert-camouflaged AFVs.
https://twitter.com/turnbulljourno/status/843475672630775813
My default scenario for a Russian aggression is still a strategic surprise attack with coup de main (occupation of Baltics and as bargaining chip Iceland). The U.S. forces would be near-irrelevant to this. There's not much you could do with naval cruise missiles, either.
I published long lists of what should be done for deterrence & defence in Europe, but little of it is liked by the MIC or its European equivalents.
https://defense-and-freedom.blogspot.com/2016/09/summary-enhanced-deterrence-and-defence.html
https://defense-and-freedom.blogspot.com/2016/12/what-europeans-could-do-for-more.html
IMO the Americans should pay attention to Iceland security with a OTH radar, air defence and a tailored land forces component. Iceland should set up a militia maybe 2,000 strong so foreign arty component would suffice on the ground. The arty could be provided by Portuguese or Canadians, but AD should be done with navy SM-6 and some AEW to get firing solutions for SM-6 better than OTH can provide.
The USArmy should set up a 'brigade circus' that travels through Europe for a dozen two-week exercises per year. The personnel could be rotated between Europe and CONUS (giving them opportunity for a vacation after the last exercise).
Likewise, the USAF should have a composite air wing including a squadron of F-22s in Europe for exercises mostly.
The Marines should have a look at a 'recapture Iceland' scenario, and counterintel should let the Russians know about the attention.
Would the "brigade circus" be part of a larger EU/NATO field problem? Seems like the most useful scenario to me.
DeleteAnd on Iceland...yes. That seems to be a pretty critical piece of real estate in the case of a West-v-Russia standoff. I guess my only thought would be that I'm not sure that the Russians have a way of really menacing it other than through a WW3-sort of nuke strike on the one end and naval harassment on the other, given the implosion of the old Soviet Navy. The "Red Storm Rising" sort of Iceland-invasion seems increasingly difficult-to-impossible for the current Russian military...
The 'circus' aspect to American troops in Europe (hypothetically) would serve to deflate idiotic claims of occupation, improve proficiency and would even fit a 'bring the troops home' narrative.
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My concern is that Iceland could be taken in a coup de main with unsupported Il-76 transports simply landing on Reykjavik airport. There are currently no defences. It would take days till ships would arrive and impose a blockade over that airport with suitable range SAMs.
Iceland could become a bargaining chip or a pawn the Russians could sacrifice to give NATO a face-saving exit (after a liberation) despite losing the Baltics.
Iceland's geostrategic situation isn't so important nowadays because the Russians can do little with their conventional naval power.
Iceland? Maybe. As I see it, the biggest confirmation of your Icelandic coup de main theory is that due to the Russian Chinese military relationship the US Navy will focus more on the Pacific if the Russians attack Iceland and the Baltic. The Icelandic Coast Guard may be more focused on codfishing violations than an invasion. And although their Air Defense radars and control center are linked with NATO's AD system, there are month-long gaps in NATO air patrols of Icelandic airspace out of Reykjavik Air Base. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icelandic_Air_Policing
ReplyDeleteYou would hope that the US Second Fleet would have a Arleigh Burke class destroyer with Standard Missiles off the coast of Iceland during the gaps in NATO air patrols. However, both Reykjavik and Keflavik Airports are close enough to the sea for Icelandic Coasties to take down an IL-76s with 40mm cannon.
Your IL-76s would have to be followed up. Russian Naval Infantry are a shadow of their former selves. Like the USMC they have been used well outside of their amphibious role, such as in Chechnya, the Ukraine, and Syria. Even under the Soviets they never had a serious amphibious capability. Their participation in recent Zapad & Vostok exercises has not been seen.
I never will understand why AFRICOM is headquartered in Stuttgart. Why not in Cairo, or Capetown, or in Tenerife?
ReplyDeleteSame timezone is certainly an argument. Existing treaty with Germany is another argument. Third argument is that Germany actually pays for it (which is dumb IMO). The German ministry of construction and transportation pays for building construction on U.S. bases in Germany afaik.
DeleteAnd it's NATO, so Americans can pretend that it's an effort to defend Europeans. And I'm not kidding, most Americans would certainly believe so when told about the troops count in Germany.
There are three different time zones in Africa. AFAIK only Algiers is on Central European Time.
DeleteWhy would they need new construction in Stuttgart? They were at Kelley Barracks, the old Hellenen Kaserne, which has been around for decades.
But I see they are moving now or at least searching for a new home. This story in Stars & Stripes suggests that when they were formed was no countries in Africa wanted them there.
https://www.stripes.com/news/africa/africom-begins-search-for-new-headquarters-home-1.639503
Repairs on buildings are also being paid for by Germany IIRC.
DeleteThe time zone differences in Africa don't matter. Try to do business between Europe and CONUS and you'll see how the different core work times of the day cause trouble for communication. E-mails get answered next day instead of in an hour, phone calls are only feasible in very few hours of the day.
Personally, I suppose the whole current concept of regional commands is abhorrent.
Expected German fiscal costs for construction projects of allied forces in Germany 2019-2030: EUR 650 million.
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2012-2019 it was EUR 480 million, more than half of this for American forces.