Thursday, March 5, 2026

...it was a mistake


So just the other day we were talking about the...whatever the fuck the Trumpkins are doing in the Persian Gulf that's not-a-war.

(Here's Mike "My Balls Are In A Drawer In The Resolute Desk" Johnson today: "We're not at war, we have no intention, we have no intention at being at war. The president and the Department of Defense have made it very clear, this is a limited operation.". So it's a "limited operation"? A "punitive expedition"? A cabinet war...no, it's not! It's not a war! IT'S NOT A WAR!

Not a war. Are we clear on that now?)

Sure. Okay.

Anyway, the historical examples we discussed as looking real similar to whatever-this-is included Libya and Syria because 1) the U.S. part of those wars was largely limited to airstrikes, and because of that 2) they largely just resulted in dead and maimed people and blown up buildings and destroyed military things like tanks and aircraft, leaving behind nothing but chaotic failed states that served principally to spread disorder and violence to nearby parts of North Africa and the Levant.

Now.

Just having soldiers to occupy the targeted polities doesn't promise success, either; Iraq is the test case for how you can send a bunch of guys to walk around with weapons and still have no fucking clue how to use them effectively.

But experience (and common sense) would suggest that if the actual end state for - let's us at least be honest and call it what it is- the Fourth Gulf War is something other than "chaotic failed state" someone's are going to have to actually go into Iran and make claim to the actual physical ground, buildings, animals, and people. In war, as in any tort, possession is nine-tenths of the Law, and infantry are the bailiff's men.

Do any of these wanna-be Iran filibusterers wandering around the blanket fort at Mar-a-Lago have a plan for that?

Well...supposedly the spooks at the CIA do:

"The CIA is working to arm Kurdish forces with the aim of fomenting a popular uprising in Iran, multiple people familiar with the plan told CNN. The Trump administration has been in active discussions with Iranian opposition groups and Kurdish leaders in Iraq about providing them with military support, the sources said."

If so, then we're out of Libyan territory and closer to Syria, where the anti-Assad rebellion included Kurdish soldiers aligned with the U.S. (who were then abandoned by the U.S. when they became inconvenient to U.S.-Turkish relations, so I'm not sure they'd be the right people to ask about this cunning CIA plan).

What this Kurdish Free Iranian Army idea reminds me more than anything else is the early stages of the Afghanistan incursion, when the idea was to "go in light", using only U.S. Special Forces to augment the "Northern Alliance", an outfit largely made up of - as the name says - the northern tribes in Afghanistan; Tajiks, Uzbeks, and Hazaras.

Which wouldn't have been a problem, except for that the largest, most influential, and traditionally most powerful group in Afghanistan has always been the traditional rivals of those groups, the Pashtun, who also comprised the bulk of the Taliban that were the target of the 2001 invasion.

Enlisting the northern tribes meant that even after the Taliban was driven out of the major cities into the mountains of the Afghan southeast the locals who remained behind, the population that the U.S.-led occupying force and the Afghan regime it supported, were mostly Pashtun and were unlikely to cozy up to these damn outsiders. Afghanistan might be the most extreme form of "me and my brother against my cousin; me, my brother, and my cousin against the outsider" kind of clannishness.

So if the Pashtun didn't rally to the government in Kabul - and they largely didn't, for a number of reasons but tribal loyalties being a major part of them - the chance of getting far enough ahead of the Taliban counter-occupation insurgency was slim, at best.

We know how that worked out.

What's the story in Iran? What would sending a Kurdish proxy force into Tehran look like?

Here's a Reader's Digest version of the ethnic makeup of modern Iran: 

Pre-modern Iran was known a "Persia", and the people who lived and live there are Farsi-speaking Indo-Europeans (closely related to Afghanistan's Tajiks, in fact). "Persians" are about 60% of the population of the modern country.

The second-largest group of people are Azerbaijanis, a Turkic-related , that make somewhere between 15% and 20% of the country. The Kurds are about 10%, and there's a couple of percent of various smaller groups like "Lurs", Baluchis, Turks, and Arabs.

What does that mean for a Kurdish "Western Alliance" on the ground in Iran?

Not much good.

 A Iranian Kurdish-led ground force wouldn't be much different to the rest of Iran than an Iraqi or, for that matter, a Saudi or Jordanian army. Or how a bunch of Tajiks or Hazaras walking around Pashtun territory were in Afghanistan. 

They'd be outsiders.

 


And we've been there and done that, and seen how that fucking went.

"Ils n'ont rien appris, ni rien oublie'" 

6 comments:

  1. As a person who read (too) much about history, seeing a terrible epoch kinda happen a 2nd time makes me hate that I'm powerless, being surrounded by useless or dangerous idiots.

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    1. I knew the evening of the 2024 election day that this was going to be bad, but I'll admit I had no clue HOW bad, or that it'd get THIS bad. It's utterly infuriating to have to sit and do nothing as these fools break shit and kill people.

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  2. It seems this Kurdish idea was floated and then dispensed with.

    But who knows. A big problem with this war is that this adminstration says anything and everything, so it's hard to know what's the real intent, and I'm doubtful this adminsitration has set wargoals. I supposed the benefit of that is that Trump could TACO at anytime and declare victory.

    But it is concerning the number of people who seemingly sincerely believe that regime change must be the goal when it's clear that is not within our power. Even Israel, which killed almost the entire leadership of Hamas and the bulk of its fighters and still occupies roughly half of Gaza could not bring regime change there. It's beyond foolish to think it will happen in Iran. Especially since Iran, just a few weeks ago, killed or imprisoned tens of thousands, probably the cream of any serious opposition.

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    1. My guess is that this will continue to bubble along on a back burner because I'll betcha there's some OSS-wannabes at Langley who want it to happen and the Trump "Administration" has all the discipline and strategic coherence of their Orangenfuhrer, i.e. none. It's all "twelve monkeys fucking a football", with every MAGA playa (or wannabe playa) doing their own little empire building...kinda like the OG Nazis like that (see "Hermann Goering Panzer Division"...)

      Again, the thing that makes me want to bang my head on the table is that this was all worked over and over twenty years ago. The likelihood that 1) "regime change" (i.e. a post-WW2-deNazification de-ayatollahfication of Iran) would require more occupation bodies than the US actually has or CAN have short of a WW2-level draft, and without that 2) a shock-and-awe air campaign will just, at best, fragment the nation and produce a post-Soviet Afghanistan teeming with angry Shiites with shitloads of random military-grade weapons and training.

      The level of planning incompetence out of this crew of cretins is impressing the hell out of me and I lived through Rummy and Wolfie and Perle and Bremer and the Dubya clown show.

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  3. Historians write about how intricate the security system of alliances was that Bismarck created to maintian peace between European great powers for four decades.

    It appears that we enjoyed a security and economic system that was even more intricate and impossible to fully understand. It survived the first stupid bombing campaign against Iran, but now it unravels.

    - crude oil shortage and price spike
    - nitrogen fertilizer shortage and price spike
    - helium shortage and impending crash of transistor chip production by maybe 40%
    - Gulf states thought U.S. bases mean security, instead they meant they're targets
    - petrodollar depends on Arab kleptocrats thinking U.S. is giving security, not trouble
    - USD reserve currency status eroded under GWB, recovered under Obama, eroded under lying moron 45, stagnated under Biden, crashes under lying moron 47.
    - without USD reserve currency status no chance to get foreign-held USD to finance and refinance 20T USD debt in 2026/27
    - U.S. will have to either default (illegal under constitution) or create enough USD, leading to ver high inflation if not hyperinflation
    - rest of world gets stiffed with then almost worthless USD, will hesitate to give much credit later
    - no foreign credit = no more trade balance deficit can be funded
    - consumption of goods in the U.S. about to crash (and 80% of Americans hardly consume more than food and gas anyway)
    - and idiotic CENTCOM burns through missile stocks as if they were endless, risking the deterrence in the Pacific
    - did I mention with helium shortage crashing chip production, Taiwan's deterrence of crashing world economy by ending chip exports is devalued, possibly leading to PRC invasion?
    - meanwhile, Zionist/Israel lobby is collapsing everywhere. It still has a hold on the establishments, but loses among general population. Fewer and fewer people believe Zionist narratives, more and more people see that Zionism is leading to evil actions on the level of wars of aggression, ethnic clenasing, apartheid, genocide.
    - maybe soon the European public will perceive Israeli nuclear-tipped missiles as more of a threat than Iranian non-nuclear-tipped missiles (agian, establishment excluded)

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    1. I'm hesitant to speculate as far out as you have in this, Sven.

      I'm sure there will be some pretty serious economic trouble, especially if the endgame of this mess is somewhere in the "not-good-for-the-US/Israel-faction" end (meaning anywhere from Iran-remains-a-Shiite-theocracy to Iran-becomes-a-failed-state). But beyond that - and I mean the possibility of the dollar losing it's status as one of the global reserve currencies, or the debt default crisis that results - my suspicion is that there are enough parties in the global economy who have a stake in continued US solvency that, even if they loathe Trump and hope for his downfall, will see some sort of patchwork fixes to keep the US going.

      But lots of troubles? That seems kind of baked in.

      My question is "how do you PREVENT the "bad ending" results for Iran"? As I said in the pieces; the nation has a million problems and lacks any sort of framework, civil or cultural, for any sort of decent governance. The post-WW2 Allies had both in Germany and Japan and it still took a hell of a lot of time, money, and people to produce the existing democracies. There's NO equivalent here and now. So, instead, Iran could become Libya on steroids.

      Your larger point about the post-WW2 alliance/Bretton Woods economic order? Yeah. That's a massive own-goal for the US, and everyone who's not a completely baked Trumper gets that and has warned about the stupidity of what these nitwits are doing since Felony Fats got installed in 2017.

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