tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381917167978264683.post8092442340321574968..comments2023-10-30T06:31:05.501-07:00Comments on MilPub: "Bell-bottom trousers, coats of navy blue..."FDChiefhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10607785969510234092noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381917167978264683.post-43064066407086133352016-08-12T11:23:21.596-07:002016-08-12T11:23:21.596-07:00Most confusingly, these patterns are applied to su...Most confusingly, these patterns are applied to surfaces of the amphibious vehicles that would be submerges during swimming. They're camouflaging themselves against fishes and crabs at the expense of camouflage against bazooka-armed opposition on land.S Ohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03359796414832859686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381917167978264683.post-14876134874187333112016-08-11T19:45:35.996-07:002016-08-11T19:45:35.996-07:00So cute -- thanks for sharing.
I love pea coats, ...So cute -- thanks for sharing.<br /><br />I love pea coats, and among my most treasured finds at thrift stores are old lightweight issue ripstop poplin trousers which I can transform into shorts.<br /><br />Mostly, they're so worn already, they go to holes rather quickly.Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08839236994990699117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381917167978264683.post-32755218790532227562016-08-11T11:21:49.361-07:002016-08-11T11:21:49.361-07:00The white in sailor uniforms was from the coal ste...The white in sailor uniforms was from the coal steam ship era when sailors had to load coals in bags onto the ship and got invariably dirty going so.<br />The officers wanted them neat, presentable, clean - and the white clothes were introduced to make visible that they were indeed clean.S Ohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03359796414832859686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381917167978264683.post-80264998322750133932016-08-09T19:52:17.355-07:002016-08-09T19:52:17.355-07:00I liked the lightweight ripstop poplin. But, yes,...I liked the lightweight ripstop poplin. But, yes, the heavier cotton-poly camouflage uniforms are not pleasant to wear.<br /><br />And you know that's the rest of the lyric, right?<br /><br /><i>"Once there was a little girl who lived next to me<br />And she loved a sailor boy, he was only three<br />Now he's on a battleship in his sailor suit<br />Just a great big sailor but she thinks he's very cute<br /><br />(With his bell bottom trousers, coat of navy blue<br />She loves her sailor and he loves her too)<br /><br />When her sailor boy's away on the ocean blue<br />Soldier boys all flirt with her but to him she's true<br />Though they smile and tip their caps and they wink their eyes<br />She just smiles and shakes her head, then she softly sighs<br /><br />(Oh, bell bottom trousers, coat of navy blue<br />She loves her sailor and he loves her too)<br /><br />When her sailor went to sea to see what he could see<br />She saw that he ate spinach, now he's big as he can be<br />When he's home they stroll along, they don't give a hoot<br />She won't let go of his hand, even to salute<br /><br />If her sailor she can't find on the bounding main<br />She is hopeful he will soon come home safe again<br />So they can get married and raise a family<br />Dress up all their kiddies in sailor's dungarees<br /><br />(Oh, bell bottom trousers, coat of navy blue<br />She loves her sailor and he loves her too)"</i><br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPRmfh1lb1sFDChiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10607785969510234092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381917167978264683.post-45187212106804346012016-08-09T19:48:10.397-07:002016-08-09T19:48:10.397-07:00Interestingly enough, I guess I've gotten so u...Interestingly enough, I guess I've gotten so used to seeing ridiculous camo patterns that I didn't really goggle at the PLAN Marines' outfits.<br /><br />What DID draw my eye were the goofy rectangular patterns on the APCs; all I could think of was "They look like Minecraft stuff". Somebody must have been worried that their tracks would be attacked by creepers or zombie pigmen...FDChiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10607785969510234092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381917167978264683.post-3224349262421584672016-08-09T19:36:55.103-07:002016-08-09T19:36:55.103-07:00The new materials are so uncomfortable, relatively...The new materials are so uncomfortable, relatively speaking.<br /><br />I totally agree on the awesomeness of the classic look -- that's what MY sailor looks like:)Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08839236994990699117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381917167978264683.post-67015720808054239922016-08-09T19:21:21.882-07:002016-08-09T19:21:21.882-07:00Like I said to Lisa below, Al; that's a classi...Like I said to Lisa below, Al; that's a classic look. That look sank the <i>Kito Butai</i> at Midway and turned Kurita back off Samar. That's not just a workingmans' uniform, it's the uniform of the one outfit in the entire U.S. armed forces who took on an honest-to-Buddha peer foe and licked them.<br /><br />That's pure awesomesauce, a direct link to the victors of the Great Pacific War. Why would anyone want to <i>change</i> that?FDChiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10607785969510234092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381917167978264683.post-91406229676090740182016-08-09T19:18:29.614-07:002016-08-09T19:18:29.614-07:00The cammies? Sadly, Lisa, this fetish for camo cl...The cammies? Sadly, Lisa, this fetish for camo clothing has somewhat infected the civilian world as well, so, maybe. But THIS camo? Maybe not.<br /><br />I think the classic blue denim look is awesome; it LOOKS like a working sailor should look. That's what I kinda don't get; if it's all about "looking cool", what could be cooler than that Forties "Sighted Jap - Sank Same" look? That's the look of a winner, the look of a guy who went toe-to-toe with the baddest Navy in the Pacific and won by knockout.<br /><br />Why the <i>hell</i> would you want to change that..?FDChiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10607785969510234092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381917167978264683.post-86289679526434730772016-08-09T19:15:48.102-07:002016-08-09T19:15:48.102-07:00To answer my own question...what I'm finding o...To answer my own question...what I'm finding on the 'net is that the blue cap seems to have been something that was done informally, often by the guys working down in the engineering spaces, to keep from showing the grime they would invariably attract on the job. There were some comments about the deck apes dyeing their covers "for camouflage" but that was usually dismissed as urban legend - any Japanese vessel close enough for its lookouts to see the white caps would see the USN ship first.<br /><br />But the thing was an informal modification, done on a ship-by-ship (and even division-by-division within a ship) basis, hence the oddball variety of blue and white caps.<br /><br />And FWIW the "official" cover for the crackerjack uniform was what the guy in the bottom picture is wearing, something that was apparently called a "Donald Duck hat" by its wearers and was issued until sometime in the Sixties or Seventies...FDChiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10607785969510234092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381917167978264683.post-84860642716616383172016-08-09T19:08:20.711-07:002016-08-09T19:08:20.711-07:00One thing I always wondered about the old Navy out...One thing I always wondered about the old Navy outfits; why did some ships' companies dye their dixie cups blue and some didn't?<br /><br />I'm assuming that the white caps were kept clean for shore leave. But in the picture above some of the guys have them on and they're clearly for regular fatigue duties. But the guy on the right has his blued as does one of the guys in the background.<br /><br />Anybody know what the reg - or the custom - was, back in the day?FDChiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10607785969510234092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381917167978264683.post-88640920460578072382016-08-09T19:05:56.590-07:002016-08-09T19:05:56.590-07:00In one of the comments to this post at GFT a comme...In one of the comments to this post at GFT a commentor stated that these are made from the same cotton-poly fabric as the lightweight BDUs, so, no. They'll melt right onto your skin in a fire - at least per that one individual's information...FDChiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10607785969510234092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381917167978264683.post-88526283297072538052016-08-06T11:43:23.447-07:002016-08-06T11:43:23.447-07:00oops, sorry -- Fernando said, "than to FEEL g...oops, sorry -- Fernando said, "than to FEEL good."Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08839236994990699117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381917167978264683.post-88254154801005547962016-08-06T11:41:20.315-07:002016-08-06T11:41:20.315-07:00It's "better to look good than be good&qu...It's "better to look good than be good", as Fernando said ;) And agreed re. social media: if it's not uploaded and "liked", it never really happened, did it?<br /><br />Personally, I like the denim/chambray shirt-and-dungaree look, and imagine it's cooler and more comfortable, too. I know some Korea era vets who still dress that way. <br /><br />OTOH, I can't imagine today's sailors bringing this look home.Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08839236994990699117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381917167978264683.post-39709910756203655332016-08-06T11:03:34.600-07:002016-08-06T11:03:34.600-07:00Chief,
i used to wear navy issue dungarees in rvn....Chief,<br />i used to wear navy issue dungarees in rvn. they were rather light weight.<br />i've handled the new ones that u pictured. these are heavier than the dungarees.<br />ok, i'm assuming that the new issue has fire retardant feature(assuming)<br />if i were abandoning ship i'd rather be in dungarees with low quarters.<br />jim hruskarangeragainstwarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02126542922536584950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381917167978264683.post-12256218550080687462016-08-06T07:15:53.349-07:002016-08-06T07:15:53.349-07:00Come on, Chief. We can't let our swabbies not...Come on, Chief. We can't let our swabbies not look "warriorish" when they are going to the local McDonalds, can we. The classic "dungarees" make them look like they work for a living.Aviator47https://www.blogger.com/profile/05585964386930142907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381917167978264683.post-37982797312948205892016-08-05T10:44:57.775-07:002016-08-05T10:44:57.775-07:00https://defense-and-freedom.blogspot.de/2015/07/th...https://defense-and-freedom.blogspot.de/2015/07/the-most-irrational-camo-suits.html<br /><br />Wait till you see the Chinese marines' idea of camouflage...<br />http://china-defense.blogspot.de/2015/09/blue-smurf.htmlS Ohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03359796414832859686noreply@blogger.com